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Autodesk ScrewU Ecosystem Grows

I guess that the very last part of all this Autodesk extortion modus operandai had until today one remaining bright light. I switched to Selway for my VAR and was told that support for me was available. I hardly ever use support so they never had the chance to prove that statement. In addition to that I never know what they would have offered me over a regular subscriber since I am a blogger. Suffice it to say today the last little bright light for me with anything Autodesk went dark. Strangely enough the guy who recommended Selway to me no longer works for Autodesk. Smart people are beginning to leave as the handwriting is on the wall.

October 3, 2017

Dear Autodesk, HSM customer,

You may have received an email from Autodesk referencing Manufacturing Collection. This has been creating some confusion.

As of October 1st, HSM is no longer available as a standalone subscription. It must be purchased as part of the Design and Manufacturing Collection, which is a suite of software designed to give you all the tools required to run a product design and manufacturing company. Navigate to this link for a full description of the software that is now available to you. https://www.autodesk.com/collections/product-design-manufacturing/included-software

This applies to subscription customers only. There is no change for customers who own perpetual licenses. If you own a perpetual licensee and would like to switch to a subscription to take advantage of this package deal. Please give me a call at (650) 664-9837

For subscription customers; you do not need to do anything. All customers will be converted to the Design &Manufacturing Collection automatically.

FAQ:

Q. Is there a price increase?

A. No: The price of the Design and Manufacturing Collection is $2460/year, which is $10 cheaper than what you paid originally for your annual subscription. Additionally, there are no longer two tiers of HSM, so multi-axis toolpaths and all advanced HSM functionality is now included at the same base price.

Q. Is Selway machine Tool support included in this price?

A. No: Autodesk will provide support for licensing and activation issues and there is support available at no charge on the user forums at https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm/ct-p/213

Product support from a Selway machine Tool Application Engineer is available on an annual basis, under a support contact at $1,200/year, or by the hour at our normal hourly rate.

Q. Do I have to download all this software?

A. No: The software titles are available to you in your Autodesk dashboard at accounts.autodesk.com

Please contact us if you have additional questions. Selway Machine Tool appreciates your business and we look forward to continuing our valued relationship
Sincerely,

So if I read this right and I am Mr Normal customer what this amounts to is that support is now fee added after you pay fees going up each year faster than inflation for the software and the only possible benefit for many will be the addition of suites which have things you did not need or want enough to have purchased them voluntarily. Of course since it would be new to you and you would in all likely hood require support while learning to use new software you will oddly enough need to get your checkbook out and bend over. And if you ever start using all these nice things rest assured that Autodesk is working hard behind the scenes to make sure it will be very tough to ever leave them and go elsewhere with your data. The more you embrace of their glorious suites the more the tentacles will pull you in.

I have thought for some time now this whole subscription thing was also aimed at reducing the amount of money Autodesk has had to share with VAR’s. Var’s have to eat and survive to so fee added is going to become their way of life also. Autodesk will over time and I feel in the very near future limit all support to the forums only where by and large it will be other customers who will be supporting each other. I have no doubt that along with cutting R&D budgets and various types of software offerings customer support will be phased out too. Unless you are willing to spend per support incident or high yearly support fees with I am sure a support hours limit cap on them. Contrast this with Solid Edge where you as part of your yearly fee can actually contact support inside of the SE headquarters and they will talk to you. It has been that way since I came on board in 2009 and still is that way to this day.

But then SE is not run by robber barrons who think people should be retained with shackles like Autodesk does.

There is not one good thing I can say about any part of Autodesk Inventor HSM anymore. That also extends to the Autodesk corporation as a whole. My perpetual license expires this Dec 15th and Autodesk can kiss my rear end now and in the future. I am never coming back. Greedy mercenary hostile investors both from the outside and from the inside in the form of Andrew Anagnost have set Autodesk up with only one purpose in life. Loot and plunder and do everything they can to make escape impossible for any who foolishly enter therein.

Personally I think you must be crazy to either stay or walk in through the front door of the Trap Spiders Autodesk Tunnel.

Autodesk Vampires Meet Their Stake

Thinking about local shops around here. Thinking about how AT&T lied to get government funds and government approval of the South Central Bell buyout using the promise to improve rural internet so we who live here could participate in the digital revolution. So the money is spent and Nashville and high density environs see great improvements but for rural Giles County I see 75KBS at best and many around here are still dialup. This is true throughout Tennessee and I bet many other rural areas nationwide. The alternative for many is satellite which was also bought out by AT&T so they can maintain the fiction of high-speed internet to rural customers even though it costs a ton more and has serious data caps. Really serious data caps so low it is absurd. Within twenty miles or so I can think of at least 11 shops that deal with CAD and CAM and the strangled internet AT&T has given to us. Now multiply that times all the area of Tennessee and other rural and small town shops cross the nation. None of us can thrive using cloud based only CAD or CAM across our existing internet and be productive in a fiercely competitive world.

South Central Bell was rolling out improvements years ago before they were bought out by AT&T. I have fiber optic to the top of a nearby hill perhaps a little over 10,000 feet away and there it has remained for over ten years. AT&T bought up market share and made promises. They bought infrastructure (think the equivalent with Autodesk and the programs they buy up) and customers and now apparently are in the process of catering only to areas they deem worthwhile by some metric we don’t know. Even though big chunks of what they bought helped to fund their existence we are water under the bridge to them. Cell towers are not a viable solution here due to hills and population density and the existence of, by world standards, super expensive and throttled data capped service. There is an effort to make rural electrical co-ops be the next internet provider and I hope they succeed. I think they will be given a green light soon and let me tell you the very second I can leave AT&T I am gone forever.

So the ground work is laid for the disenfranchisement of huge numbers of existing customers with a company like Autodesk who only want cloud services and customers. We, that is shops like myself are not going there for a handful of reasons. Security which can’t be guaranteed over infrastructure Autodesk neither owns or controls or can make secure. Costs to even try to get fast enough internet to make this Albatross work are huge and one shop close by was so desperate they contracted for a T1 line. Add $400 to your bill each month and commit to a really lengthy contract on top of that. Nothing works as fast as your own workstation on your own desk. For less than $1,300 I bought a Dell Small Business Outlet a Dell T3620 with an Intel 7700K cpu, 1TB Samsung NVME SSD with 32gb ram and a Quadro M4000 graphics card. This thing flies and Autodesk will never be able to do for me anything that I do faster than I can do it for myself. So I have security and speed and cost containment. Any of those things matter to you as a reader? Oh and the idea that once someone has roped you into a pay to play scenario they can fire the developers and can those pesky software improvement programmers.

After all when you agreed to go to the cloud and rent, not buy into with a perpetual seat, you agreed to whatever is served up by your new slave owner. Guess what place you have in this paradigm. Yes it is true by the way since Autodesk is currently reducing the R&D budget. Users know the pace of innovation has slowed way down and bugs are not being fixed at all or expeditiously unless super critical.

It is my personal belief that even though Moores Law seems to be slowing down the ancillary parts are making up for it and more. Multi core problems will be solved one day for existing single thread functions. Everything points to huge power and speed bought economically by individual users residing on the desks of anyone who wishes to do so. It will handle all but large data problems and in general if you are dealing with these scenarios I believe that a faster economical solution will be there for you too. It will just cost more but it will still be cost-effective compared to the alternative which is the regression to main frame by others compute scenario which Autodesk wants us all to devolve into.

So we come to this point in time. It is with great delight I receive the following this Saturday (8-26-17) morning. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WorldcadAccess/~3/ZaJgiwuT_ao/the-cloud-dies-on-september-7-.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email

I think Carl Bass is far smarter than Andrew Baked Beans Anagnost whom I regard as a grasping clueless mercenary money hungry individual willing to sell long time customers and a whole company down the river for his personal get really rich quick scheme. He is possessed of a malign intent that sees no further than his goal of personal enrichment. He thinks, now all this is just my opinion but there is evidence out there that makes me think this way. I did not just sit down and fantasize about stuff and come up with these ideas out of the ether. He thinks because he wants it so badly that the power of his forceful ambition and greed will overcome all these numerous existing obstacles to his dream of financial nirvana. That the suckers, well I mean customers of course will all co-operate for his personal gain.

I bet executives talk about things and spy on each others companies and I wonder if stuff like this upcoming Ansys announcement gave pause to Bass and his creation at Autodesk for the cloud junk. If I saw that what was planned was going to be doomed to failure I would ease on out to if I could and let the egg be on someone elses face. (Remember Carl did cash in a huge amount of his Autodesk stock when he left.) A deserving individual like say perhaps Baked Beans. You can always return as an older and wiser saving hero and benefit from the mess you helped to create if you just have a clueless fall guy to manipulate. Andrew has no technical and or actual user capabilities I know of and is as far as I can tell purely a sales and marketing guy. Can you think of any qualification worse than this to be in charge of real life design and production software? Can you think of better class of individual to be selected as a sacrificial lamb? I sure cant.

The whole stock market is grossly out of whack and has been for some time. Steady worthwhile income from dividends has become a thing of the past and the Ponzi scheme of capital gains on stocks being the new value gain reality will have the same repercussions the S&L crisis did in the 80’s and Dot Com in the early 2000’s. If the only thing stocks are producing is capital gains with no underlying production increases to justify it, is it real? Well yes until it inevitably isn’t and then huge numbers of people are left with no seat in the game of stock market musical chairs. I believe that in a real value based dividend oriented stock market Autodesk’s scheme would have already folded. But today corporate America has been trained to be self serving and to loot and plunder for self enrichment and get out with your loot before you lose it. Wages and perks for top guys are so far out of historical normal numbers it is scary. How can we manipulate for short term gain so I can cash out and now we have someone in charge of Autodesk who quite simply sees no further than this.

Anyway get the popcorn out folks. The coming show will be amusing and who knows. Maybe after 10 or 11 successive underwater quarters Autodesk will come to its senses and go back to the “old” and proven ways of doing business with voluntary participants on both sides who want to be there. I “Ansyst” you do so and you wont regret it. Rich buttery theater popcorn would be best I think.

Autodesk Inventor Now Imports Solid Edge Files, So Who Cares In Subscription Hell?

Yes it is true. The last major design software out there unable to be imported directly into Inventor was Solid Edge. Pleased to see in the latest Inventor update this has now been rectified. I know only stories I have been told as to why this took so long and considering Siemens UGS cabal of SE killers I believe they were partly responsible. As the stories I have been told go SE made life hard and or expensive to integrate into inventor. The flip side to this is that all other major CAD programs I know of had done this a long time ago leaving Inventor the only one who had not. Who is telling the truth I don’t know. With Autodesk killing off innovation and cutting R&D budgets while embarking on squeezing more money from each customer fingers can be pointed both ways. With I might add some justification. In any case it is done.

I have not spent a whole lot of time with the new capability since right now I don’t have new parts to feed inventor with. Quite frankly I am not interested enough in Inventor to just waste my time seeing how it all works in numerous and varied SE imports. Autodesk has really blown it with me and a TON of other perpetual seat holders. http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cad-cam/autodesk-hsmworks-i-am-cutting-my-losses-jumping-ship-what-next-336090/ with 150 replies and over 10,000 views pretty well sums it up for many. In my experience the numbers of people who feel strongly about something but do not post about it is far far larger than those who are willing to post. The post to view ratio here is an indicator of how many Autodesk perpetual seat holders are fed up but do not talk about it. They read about it and make plans accordingly. I bet if Autodesk and the piranha minded hostile investors and greed consumed C suite Autodesk types really had a clue about these numbers they would crap.

Oddly enough over at CNC Zone I find no mention of Autodesk user betrayal today and I could swear there were threads talking about this so perhaps they have been removed for some reason. I hope this is not the case because this new paradigm by Autodesk is scurrilous at best and will profoundly effect all who stay.

I hate this happening to HSM but such is life. Really nice Autodesk that you can now import SE files when it does not matter to this user anymore. To bad you can’t work with those files like SE ST can with yours and has been able to do so for years. Perhaps some day there will be a new Reddit sub. It might be called the Autodesk BSDM Dungeon and those who volunteer to enter in can and will be catered to.

Looking forward to SE ST9 and I see you shrinking in the rear view mirror ADSK. Time to begin my leisurely search for a new CAM program with my perpetual seat buffer zone.

Autodesk’s Greed Imposed Fatal Hemorrhage

FEED ME Seymore

FEED ME Seymore

As short as two and a half years ago I was in awe of the assembling of the pieces of a software juggernaut. HSM and Delcam had been bought up by Autodesk under Carl Bass who was himself a man who actually used this stuff and understood shop floor manufacturing. From an actual user viewpoint and not like the current head mucky muck with Autodesk who can only count dollars. There is a huge difference between these two mind sets. But I figured that Carl was putting together a manufacturing ecosphere and getting this set of tools in front of students and future business owners/ operators in ways that would bear large amounts of fruit in years to come.

Just as fascinating as it was to see the assembly of the juggernaut is the speed with which it all now comes crashing down. It looks like perhaps Carl was also an advocate of subscription Hell for Autodesk’s customer base. Whether he was also for the gutting of R&D for product development and the huge price increases I will never know. I like to think he left the company because the Anagnost faction conspired with the new hostile investor types who had bought their way to seats on the board to remove him. Unbridled greed with the Anagnost and hostile investor types VS the guy who may have wanted subscription Hell to but perhaps would have stayed closer to the Adobe model than the rape and plunder Anagnost model.

To me Carl showed foresight and planning and methodical conquest of rivals but still providing value to customers. Anagnost on the other hand is the bare face of greed and conspiracy with people who do not use their software products and could care less about users. All they see is someone who promises to deliver a captive market held not by voluntary exchange of money for goods and services but rather squeezed out of people who theoretically have to pay and have no alternative to paying whatever the extortionists want. Living in a purely capital gains world unlike anything this country has seen before quick quarterly stock manipulation to generate fictitious improvements is the new way. These guys want to cash out and then leave when it all turns south and find another Vulture’s roost to occupy for a while. No longer is it what goods or services will make money but how can we lie to the world about share value so we can churn the market and get rich through theft. This then is the new Autodesk.

Remember when companies were bought and sold for steady revenue streams and stock buyers looked for steady dividends to live on? Capital gains were considered the icing on the cake but not the cake. It was something to be hoped for but dividends were king. This was the historic norm up until the late 90’s when the consequences of Clinton selling the Lincoln bedroom to influence peddlers freed banks to embark on wholesale plunder of manufacturing by being able to invest or offer financial services not at all related to lending. This has led to stocks being grossly overvalued by historic norms by the traditional metric of cost to dividend ratios being chief amongst investor considerations.

So we come full circle to the world of Autodesk today. Autodesk sells software products to people like me. Well let me rephrase that, used to sell to me. We make long-term use of the software to build real world things and we use it for decades at a time throughout careers offering services and physical goods to customers who have a standard of quality we must meet. If we don’t they will go elsewhere. We have to take a long term view of the productivity and stability and the improvement of our software tools because it is our life blood.

Piranhas now inhabit the Autodesk leadership and are creeping onto the board and what can we chew up and on today is now the future planning metric. Feed me so I can leave when the body is consumed and go find another body.

Here are two links. https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/moving-to-subscription/bd-p/2017 will take you to an Autodesk forum they would rather you did not know about. Spend time here and see what actual users who have to think in terms of decades and careers think of what Autodesk is doing. Next up is http://www.seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4077637-autodesks-position-continues-become-precarious for a stock analysts thoughts on Autodesk’s eight underwater quarters in a row and their future.

One of the huge things hardly discussed in my opinion is the forcible breaching of security and losing the ability to protect IP by Autodesk forcing people to have to work online. The most egregious offender is Fusion360 which demands you go online and save all edits and files to a remote server where you have to rent your data back forever to use it. Apparently Autodesk is also working on license verification which has to allow online access from your workstation which is supposed to be secure and not go online to get permission to run. Theoretically this was supposed to happen “only” once a month but comments on the Subscription forum are indicating this could be as much as a daily occurrence or more. This is for all subscription services and automatically breaches all your confidentiality agreements when you are forced to go online to check in. It is just a matter of time before huge breaches of security occur to an Autodesk customer because of this. Autodesk is certain this will happen to by the way and you can verify this by reading the TOS where they spell out they are NOT liable for any damages incurred by having to go online.

This then is the true regard this new wave of management has for its customers. Sit down shut up pay up and don’t whine and complain. FEED ME SEYMORE!!! The only important thing in this whole wide world view of theirs is their plans to get in and cash out (wouldn’t you like to see Baked Bean Anagnost’s golden parachute he is assiduously preparing so no matter what his rear is covered in gold).

You buy anything from Autodesk and pin your future livelihood to it you better think long and hard about how they regard you. Most telling I think is the bean counter mentality referenced in the Seeking Alpha article where Autodesk states they are cutting R&D. Now this coming from a company that has already dropped the ball on adding value to existing software through improvements is quite revealing. Years go by without significant program improvements and problems linger for years without being fixed. Read what is said by satisfied customers about this on the Subscription forum.

Today regard the new Autodesk Juggernaut. Rather than eating up market share it will be eating customers. Autodesk is looking for new hors d’oeuvre’s,
customers and it could be you if you are silly enough.

Autodesk Subscription Screw U 2018 Begins

I am assuming that your arrival here to this blog means you have an interest in the direction Autodesk is taking with its software. I mean all of it from movie making to design and machining to planning civil projects. All of it and all users who stay with perpetual seats with the upcoming dramatic cost increases or decide to begin for whatever insane reason subscriptions with Autodesk.

What has been a position of mine for some time is that perpetual seats make a software developer accountable to users. It means quite simply that users have an expectation of improvements as the carrot to renew. If the software does not improve they can simply stop paying and operate for years. For users of Inventor Pro HSM any real worthy new additions to the CAM side have been lacking for about two years. The frequency of beta updates which gave users the benefit of seeing incremental improvements from many per year have dropped off to just one since last December 12th. Notably considering the dearth of CAM improvements a backplotter from Cimco is on the chopping block now. So add to the dwindling improvements and new features the removal of an important traditional one.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/hsm-beta-testing-english-deutsch/hsmworks-2018-r1-development-release/td-p/6998929

So this week 4-3-17 sees some comments started at the above link. I am going to post some of them here for a reason. Typical user comment longer than most.

Corporate talking head explanation that basically Autodesk wants to now charge for what used to be included. Remember Autodesk and their subscription future is purely a scheme to force customers silly enough to stay or go there to spend far more money for status quo at best and I figure it will turn out to be less than that. They are I believe going to subdivide out traditional features and expect to charge for those on top of raising costs much higher over program costs that have been the norm for years with them. This is a common thread at the below forum link where Maya and 3DS Max are discussed at length along with Autocad.

I want to compel you the reader to do more than a cursory analysis of this situation with Autodesk so I put these teasers in here in hopes you will spend significant time reading at length the material in its entirety in these forums. This is a common thread throughout another Autodesk forum. Mainly that traditionally included features that are needed are being eliminated so that they can be sold as add ons in the brave new subscription world. Remember that subscription removes your power over this and you take what they are willing to give and for far more. Sans significant new improvements of course. One of the powerful tools Autodesk will soon be using against holdouts and the rebellious is updating file extensions. You need the new Autodesk whatever to open the new DWG for instance. Just to improve your user experience and software reliability of course 😉

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/moving-to-subscription/bd-p/2017

Gems like this are in there.

Softimage for Maya going away for subscribers.

Folks you really really need to spend significant time in this Moving To Subscription forum to get a feel for the future. Replete with lots of corporate psychobabble justifications and evasions and attempts to put lipstick on pigs. See what other customers are finding out and sad attempts of placation by Autodesk.

Next up is http://www.blog.cadnauseam.com/2017/04/07/autodesk-customers-are-still-revolting/

An independent blog that goes way past superficial in analysis of what is going on. I have mentioned BlogNauseum before but there is new info all the time. You need to catch up and stay current with information here.

Potential and actual Autodesk customers have a decision to make and it is unavoidable. You decide to revolt against this and seek an alternative right now while you can rationally plan your move you will be in charge. I figure perpetual seat holders have easily a year to work out their solution even if they let the software lapse. It will still be current enough. Subscription only people were crazy to ever begin to go down this path and they deserve whatever happens to them. Perpetual seat holders who think they can stay and survive under this new way better think twice. Costs will escalate for less product. You will be expected to pony up additional costs for “add ons” that used to be included. You will get fewer new features and bug fixes will take longer if they are indeed ever done. Significant new capabilities will be things you read about other software companies producing for their users. You will not be a part of that any more. Autodesk has stated their goal is to make your perpetual seat existence untenable and they are going to pull out all the stops to force you to leave that world and enter subscription Hell. You stay and you will pay pay pay.

I have to admit that it gripes me to no end to have sent in another years money in December only to find out whatever they do with Inventor Pro HSM won’t matter because it looks like I have to stay with 2017 if I wish to use backplotting. Autodesk has gone from class act to class ass in a half year in this writers eyes.

Last but not least and emblematic of the atrophy of timely fixes and real improvements is this. Brought to you by the New Autodesk Way. Keep in mind probing was supposed to be a working new feature with Inventor Pro HSM 2017 and HSMWorks to follow in short order. It is done in neither of them and there is no longer even a pretense of a finite timeline to completion. Just guesses none will stand behind.

Yes we put the Icon in there for 2017 and MAYBE by Q3 of 2018 it will mean something!