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MAHL’S Time Alignment For Any Speaker

Time alignment is something that people with La Scalas and KHorns have requested over the years. As a matter of fact the very first demand for free standing MAHL’s came from these Klipsch owners. As a result I have tinkered with various free standing MAHL’s for a while now. Mostly these are very limited production and most of the time are single unique sets only. I do my best to find figured wood and make these works of redeeming visual appeal as well as real audio quality improvement. Here is a set with Crotch Black Walnut and Black Locust live edge cookies.

My first effort at time aligning was forced on me with my Super MWM set which had a 108″ throat on the single fold bass bin. I had to use DSP for that and also to dial in the K-402 horn on top. The guys who were asking about free standing MAHL’s however were typically dealing with time aligning maybe 12″ at best. I could never hear any difference with a 12″ time alignment. With 108″ though there was a clear muddiness added when not time aligned so when these guys asked for MAHL’s for 12″ or less time alignment I just figured they could hear much better then I could and set about making some.

Now along the way in talking to other K-402 owners I find that almost all of them spent some time aiming those big horns radially and for vertical tilt. With a set in hand to play with I quickly found out that aiming was a real thing for best results.

A year or two later found me working on my own complete two way speaker and I elected to do a two way. I used the same basic cavity shape for the SMAHL and LMAHL for the much larger 14″ x 7″ mouth 6.75″ deep solid wood horn and found that this basic tractrix cavity design scaled up really well.

Now insofar as time alignment went with this larger wood horn and the 12″ woofers the depth difference was negligible but rotating and tilting was something that clearly improved the sound.

So I go back to fiddling with looking at what customers had done with their free standers and they did not tilt but they all rotated to a sweet spot of their choosing. So I elected to design and cut free standing sets that did rotation only. This set of White Oak was my test bed for axial improvement. These are cut with the same exact proven cavity shape as the LMAHL’s and stand up high enough to clear any typical cabinet top reflections.

The axial adjustment alone made a real difference and I had to wonder how much aiming had to do with improved sound over less then a millisecond sound travel time would do with displacement from the front of the speaker.

The other really neat thing about these is that this idea works on any three way speaker they have been tried on to improve sound quality with a big enough flat spot on top. Lets face it, three sets of drivers on a fixed plane can never be aimed for that sweet spot. I will tell you that in my experience the HF has an influence on all the other drivers and until it is right nothing is right. When you have the HF dialed in correctly the bass sounds better as do the mids and you hear things you never heard before with those same speakers and aiming those tweeters is definitely a part of doing this. Go and look at comments on AudioKarma about the LMAHL or SMAHL and see what people say. Go to EBay and look at the feedback for the LMAHL V2 and SMAHL V2 tweeters.

It was entirely unexpected by me that the HF would improve it all and by a big margin but much to my utter delight it did. I remember telling people about this and they laughed at me. So I started a try it and see for various forum members. I would send them a set to try. If they did not like them I also paid to have them sent back so no one was out one thin dime to try. I never got one set back and what I got was how much are they and reviews that said the same thing I had been laughed at for claiming 😀

It is a diabolical trap for scoffers that they do not regret falling into.

I happen to really like high quality output. My very first customer for everything I do is me and I am in search of music quality that can make the hair stand up on your arms (the Super MWM) or bring tears to your eyes like Julia Fischer playing Vivaldi’s Four Seasons on my yet un-named but ready for production two way. First one going out to a customer in Louisville,KY later this month.

Here is the link to Julia’s Four Seasons. I downloaded the high res file and saved it. A trip through Audacity and using the high definition soundcard driver available for my Dell PC I use as a music server and this thing will stir your soul. By the way I generally make time for visitors and if you happen to be in the Nashville area with time on your hands drop me a line here ahead of time and you are welcome to stop in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-W3lfcVvY

WOOD LMAHL’S

Not everything I come up with gets shown to people nor do I even make some of everything that has been designed. That is part of the discovery process and there are times when inspiration gets ahead of common sense and you guys never get to see the wasted hours spent fiddling around with ideas. Well I guess it is not really wasted but surely is not productive either.

  In any case I have had Klipsch heads after me for some time to do various things like for instance a wood horn for La Scalas and KHorns. Another one is a wood LMAHL or Large MAHL. I have held off on this because that .2″ flange that gets recessed into the motorboard (or baffle as they are known in many places. Motorboard to me because that is how they were named on the Klipsch forum by many.) cutout is plenty for the plastic and aluminum flanges. For wood however my fear was the ability of wood to split out at the corners where the bevel head screws went for mounting. I could have just had drilled holes and a flat bottomed screw but I did not like how that looked when modeled. As in one of those things no one see’s but me.

  Now how you get somewhere may vary from person to person and for me sometimes odd things lead to inspiration. I have had a couple of people that wanted MAHLS with no engraving on them so I removed it and they looked pretty good and now wood MAHLS are only cut this way. So I think, what if I remove the screw holes and the engraving how would that look and what would I do for mounting?

   For better or worse I did come up with something. My concern here is you can tell people not to tighten something down or they can split or ruin it.  What constitutes snug enough is a wildly variable amount depending on the person. Thinking of the few stripped screw holes I have had to deal with over the years of restoring Klipsch speakers and people with screw guns.

 I think I came up with a way of doing it that is not fool proof but as good as the material used will allow for. First up is a front view.

Second up is an assembly view showing how I propose to clamp the horn to the motorboard.

And the third to show it without the motorboard.

I expect to be offering these soon as yet another variant of the MAHL’s as soon as I get a speaker to try them in. I need to check for clearance with other drivers and horns and to see just how much pressure is needed to tighten these down enough to stop any cabinet rattle but not be so much that the flange is split from the lens body. I am using serrated bottom nuts for these to lock things in place.

One of the final questions I have to answer is will the DE-10 I commonly offer with the LMAHL be to heavy for this mounting method? I might just offer these with DE-120’s as they are much less weight though sadly almost double the price my cost. Looking to get some KPT-301’s soon as test beds so for those of you wanting these your time just might be soon at hand.